i asked if he had more than one - that there were several, and should have red twine around them... he responded:
"Stories of History...Stories of History. Do you have a picture of it that you could email me? I was at a convention two weeks ago. There was this man, Miles something, who had some old books with red twine. I remember them because they'd never been opened before. Who knows? Maybe a connection. Mark"
Kara, there seem to be a few books out with a similar cover design... I've read them, and they're great novels, but they're not what exactly what we're looking for.
Yeah. I'm a book dealer. Specialize mostly in antique, hard to find volumes. What can I do you for?
Mark -- Ah, great! I'm trying to help a man named David Abraham.
He is trying to track down a Book of History. Have you ever heard of them?
You mean like a school book?
Mark -- The book is kind of brown-ish. On the very top it has a note attached to it by a thin red ribbon that goes around the entire book, "Beware to those who open this book..." There's also a ribbon on the bottom. In the center there is a plain circle. No writing or anything, just a circle indented in it.
Benjamin -- Yeah, I know it. Saw it at a convention awhile back. I remember it from that crazy note attached to it. Plus, it had never been opened. You want to buy it or something? I can probably track down the owner. Miles something or other if I remember right. Huntley. Miles Huntley. Let me see if it's available. Mark.
"Yeah, I know it. Saw it at a convention awhile back. I remember it from that crazy note attached to it. Plus, it had never been opened. You want to buy it or something? Lots of people have come around today asking for it. I can probably track down the owner. Miles something or other if I remember right. Huntley. Miles Huntley. Let me see if it's available. Mark."
So what we know is that Miles saw the books at a convention a couple weeks ago. Now a Miles Huntley [?] has them? That seems to be the gest right? Anyone else find anything out?
We have a problem...Black is already after Mark. From Mark: BTW...this guy contacted me a little while ago. Said he'd be coming by my shop tomorrow. Has some questions about the book. A friend of yours maybe? Real weird dude. Kept saying "baby" all the time. Mark -- My Reply: -- "baby?" This is not David Abraham. This man is evil. Goes by the name of "Black." He ransacked David's house and killed his dog. David got away before Black could get to him.
I highly advise you stay away from this man. Do whatever you have to cancel that meeting.
Mark: "Thanks for the 411, but I've dealt with some shady characters in my day and he didn't sound like one. Just...eccentric. Besides, he speaks my native tongue: CASH. Said he really wants this book and is willing to pay handsomely for it. I'm supposed to meet him at noon tomorrow. He's flying in just to talk about the book. Anyway...if you and your friends want it, you better move fast. Sounds like this book, whatever it is, is a hot commodity. Mark"
Me: "You don't understand...are you aware of Project Showdown? If you aren't, I suggest you research it. Black is directly responsible for all the havoc caused to the entire town of Paradise, CO.
And I'll pass on the message to DA about the money.
Hi Blank. To answer your question, I don't have a brother. Why? I say we sit tight and see what David comes back with. I feel like the more people who are getting involved, the more people are getting hurt.
Kara, I think Blank was asking if you are the same Kara that is a sister to Thomas Hunter.
And I agree that we can't do much more than wait until David gets back....although you may want to know that Mark's contact, Miles Huntley, died in a fire. The books are now in the possession of Frank Miller.
A few friends and I did a little research on our own. It appears Miles Huntley died in a fire recently. The books are no longer in his possession. How do you plan on selling them to either Black or to us?
That could work. But maybe it would not be best to let Mark know that there are lots working on this book. The less someone knows, the less he can tell.
Mark: "You aren't listening. I didn't say I could sell them to you. I said I could FIND them for you. That's what a book broker does...finds books. I know a lot of people. If there's a book out there to be found, I can find it. Will find it. If the price is right, of course.
I didn't know that Vegas fire killed your guy. I didn't know him personally, but some of my friends did, I think. If he was a friend of yours, my condolences. Look, unless you and your friends want to start talking commission or a finder's fee, I'm done. I've got this paying customer coming tomorrow. From what it looks like, demand is up and supply is down.
I have a friend in the comic business, the same guy who oversaw the Circle Trilogy graphic novels. He made a phone call. The "300" Frank Miller isn't the guy we're looking for. Must be someone else.
Hey Ben, Ask him if he knows Frank miller. Maybe you could come from an angle that you a working for a wealthy benefactor. Make him think that money is no object.
OK, I'll try that MS. And it would be nice to know if you are a member of the Circle on teddekker.com. There is also a member by the name of "followinghim"; so to prevent confusion, a simple yes or no would be suffice.
Everyone, I am emailing with Mr. Kamenski right now. I have asked the Overseer for his help in case we need it. As you know, the Circle has many members, and financial resources are not an obstacle. I will keep you posted. DA
and i thought thomas was desceased, which tends to make it hard to swing a bat or drive a car, much less legal. are you implying that the tomes (black, Red, and white) in which Thomas is talked about were written before they happened? seeing as they are mentioned in showdown?
This may be completely unrelated to what's going on and all ... but with a shady character like M. Black out ... do we know where Monique is, and can she help?
My dear friends I am going to call it a night. The tragedy of today’s events have drained me. I’m encouraged by the team working together. Talk to you soon.
Freefall, we should probably save this blog for discussing things with David, MS, and Kara. I think theories and indirect questions should be taken to the message boards on teddekker.com.
I'm currently working on enhancing the small words in the note... im pretty sure they are words... its just a process of making them clear enough to read! I'll keep ya'll posted.
Well... I cannot figure out what the small letters are... anyone have photoshop??? The programs I am using are freeware and junk... Im 99% sure they are words... but all I get is a blur... any good programs I could use?
I looked Frank Miller up on Myspace and the first person it came up with was a man named Frank who's 32, lives in NY, NY, is married, and his last log in was on 4/29/04. I'll keep looking I just wanted to let you all know.
Good Morning Everybody I'm willing to help. I don't know what exactly I can do. None of you know me, I don't have accounts to many of the social websites, I'm limited by my school. But I do have one thing to offer David Abraham. Encouragement. Always remember that we are in the middle of the story. We know the beginning, and the end will be that God gets what He's always been after. And God is the only one who knows the middle. Do ya'll think I should join the Circle?
Let me enlighted you all. Billos is the one in the securuity camera feed, and he is the one working with Marsuvees Black. Thomas Hunter is not yet dead, because this story takes place in the fifteen year gap. Kara is not the Kara that is Thomas' sister, she is the Kara that Johnis saved from the desert.
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Thank you David.
I guess we'll just have to wait and see what Mark says.
IT LOOKS FAMILIAR. AS IF I'VE SEEN IT BEFORE......
=)
Where?
Mark wrote back regarding that book pic:
"Yeah, that's the book. I remember it because it had that crazy note on it. What about it? Do you want to buy it? mark"
next steps?
Ted dekkers books chosend and infidel
i asked if he had more than one - that there were several, and should have red twine around them... he responded:
"Stories of History...Stories of History. Do you have a picture of it that you could email me? I was at a convention two weeks ago. There was this man, Miles something, who had some old books with red twine. I remember them because they'd never been opened before. Who knows? Maybe a connection. Mark"
Kara, there seem to be a few books out with a similar cover design... I've read them, and they're great novels, but they're not what exactly what we're looking for.
(they have words inside...)
DA....I got an e-mail from Mark saying a Miles Huntley bought it.
Who is Miles? Thank EVERYONE for your help, we must find these books. I don't know where we would be if we were doing this alone.
Great DA, let us know what you get.
My entire message conversation thus far:
I heard about you on a blog...do you sell books?
Mark Kamenski
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Hey Benjamin,
Yeah. I'm a book dealer. Specialize mostly in antique, hard to find volumes. What can I do you for?
Mark
--
Ah, great! I'm trying to help a man named David Abraham.
He is trying to track down a Book of History. Have you ever heard of them?
You mean like a school book?
Mark
--
The book is kind of brown-ish.
On the very top it has a note attached to it by a thin red ribbon that goes around the entire book, "Beware to those who open this book..."
There's also a ribbon on the bottom.
In the center there is a plain circle. No writing or anything, just a circle indented in it.
Benjamin
--
Yeah, I know it. Saw it at a convention awhile back. I remember it from that crazy note attached to it. Plus, it had never been opened. You want to buy it or something? I can probably track down the owner. Miles something or other if I remember right. Huntley. Miles Huntley. Let me see if it's available. Mark.
I just talked to Mark, her said:
"Yeah, I know it. Saw it at a convention awhile back. I remember it from that crazy note attached to it. Plus, it had never been opened. You want to buy it or something? Lots of people have come around today asking for it. I can probably track down the owner. Miles something or other if I remember right. Huntley. Miles Huntley. Let me see if it's available. Mark."
Ben are you a part of the circle on teddekker.com. if you are whats ur username
Asoza, I am discipleofElyon.
No....I am forgiven_one...Ben is discipleofelyon
So what we know is that Miles saw the books at a convention a couple weeks ago. Now a Miles Huntley [?] has them? That seems to be the gest right? Anyone else find anything out?
yea i got that mixed up, sorry. im blank there too.
that sounds close enough kara.
and can i ask you one question. do you have a brother?
I sent Mark another message...still waiting for reply.
This site was posted on Ted Dekker's forums: bookyworm.com
Miles died in a fire? Oh dear...=(
Looks like Miles' bookstore burned down suspiciously with him in it. Surviving books were sold to a Frank Miller
MILES HUNTLEY IS DEAD!
http://www.bookyworm.com/
I emailed the email address gived at said website and am awaiting a reply.
I must say, I am enjoying this. I don't think I've ever saved the world before.
BTW...Frank Miller is from Denver
Thank you everyone for your help. i have a contact in the investigative community. Let me see what I can find out. DA
We have a problem...Black is already after Mark.
From Mark:
BTW...this guy contacted me a little while ago. Said he'd be coming by my shop tomorrow. Has some questions about the book. A friend of yours maybe? Real weird dude. Kept saying "baby" all the time. Mark
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My Reply:
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"baby?" This is not David Abraham. This man is evil. Goes by the name of "Black."
He ransacked David's house and killed his dog. David got away before Black could get to him.
I highly advise you stay away from this man. Do whatever you have to cancel that meeting.
Benjamin
Nothing so far on frank miller.
Is there some type of keyword to look up in ebay. Cause when i look up frank miller all i get is a comic writer, no book dealers.
Will keep searching.
MS
Following him are you a part of the circle on teddekker.com if you are whats your username
Mark:
"Thanks for the 411, but I've dealt with some shady characters in my day and he didn't sound like one. Just...eccentric. Besides, he speaks my native tongue: CASH. Said he really wants this book and is willing to pay handsomely for it. I'm supposed to meet him at noon tomorrow. He's flying in just to talk about the book. Anyway...if you and your friends want it, you better move fast. Sounds like this book, whatever it is, is a hot commodity. Mark"
Me:
"You don't understand...are you aware of Project Showdown? If you aren't, I suggest you research it. Black is directly responsible for all the havoc caused to the entire town of Paradise, CO.
And I'll pass on the message to DA about the money.
Benjamin"
Hi Blank. To answer your question, I don't have a brother. Why? I say we sit tight and see what David comes back with. I feel like the more people who are getting involved, the more people are getting hurt.
where did you grow up kara
Kara i dont think that is a luxury we have. If ben is right then we have to find the books before Black gets to Mark.
And how can mark sell the books to black if he doesn't have them?
Ben it might be a good idea to ask Mr. Mark that.
MS
"have a brother..." the opperative word being "have," azosa. ;)
Kara, I think Blank was asking if you are the same Kara that is a sister to Thomas Hunter.
And I agree that we can't do much more than wait until David gets back....although you may want to know that Mark's contact, Miles Huntley, died in a fire. The books are now in the possession of Frank Miller.
http://bookyworm.com/index.html
http://bookyworm.com/article.pdf
Good point MS, I'll send him a message.
kara, you remind of someone. this person had a brother, but i think he passed away a while back. do you have a late brother?
and i wasn't trying to be that up front about it ben.
Mark,
A few friends and I did a little research on our own. It appears Miles Huntley died in a fire recently. The books are no longer in his possession. How do you plan on selling them to either Black or to us?
Benjamin
That could work. But maybe it would not be best to let Mark know that there are lots working on this book. The less someone knows, the less he can tell.
MS
I think Mark knows that from the number of emails he got about an hour or so ago.
Yeah but he dosen't know that we are all working together. Lets keep it that way
MS
Nope no brother. I've grown up on my own, doing my own thing. The world is at our finger tips. I'm concerned about David. This is just all crazy.
Following him you didnt asnwer my question. are you a part of the circle on teddekker.com if so wats your username
A few friends is not "lots."
Plus, look at it this way, if he is looking to sell, more people have more money.
But either way, it looks like the books are out of his possession. We should track down Frank Miller.
okay kara. so if you don't mind my asking, how did you and David meet?
I agree with Ben...follow the book...Frank Miller is our best bet now.
And my post is to MS....things move so quick on here.
So i guess we all agree we need frank miller.
My digging only showed that a Frank miller is the guy who made the 300 graphic novels. His comics are all over ebay.
MS
PS: Asoza, there are no stupid questions, just unnecessary ones.
Mark: "You aren't listening. I didn't say I could sell them to you. I said I could FIND them for you. That's what a book broker does...finds books. I know a lot of people. If there's a book out there to be found, I can find it. Will find it. If the price is right, of course.
I didn't know that Vegas fire killed your guy. I didn't know him personally, but some of my friends did, I think. If he was a friend of yours, my condolences. Look, unless you and your friends want to start talking commission or a finder's fee, I'm done. I've got this paying customer coming tomorrow. From what it looks like, demand is up and supply is down.
Cheers,
Mark"
it is necessary and its an easy question to answer. we need to determine whose not a key player
has anyone seen the book on Ebay?
The article says he's interested to sell.
I have a friend in the comic business, the same guy who oversaw the Circle Trilogy graphic novels. He made a phone call. The "300" Frank Miller isn't the guy we're looking for. Must be someone else.
DA
Hey Ben, Ask him if he knows Frank miller. Maybe you could come from an angle that you a working for a wealthy benefactor. Make him think that money is no object.
MS
PS: Asoza, We are all key players.
David, Mark won't go any further if we don't pay. Do you want to leave it at that?
just tell me
does it have to be cash, or can it be a barter.
Kara ... how long ago was it that Thomas sacreficed so much to save so many?
does it have to be cash, or can it be a barter.
Kara ... how long ago was it that Thomas sacreficed so much to save so many?
Blank
To answer your question, I got to know who David was through some research I was doing. Turned out he was the expert...
OK, I'll try that MS. And it would be nice to know if you are a member of the Circle on teddekker.com. There is also a member by the name of "followinghim"; so to prevent confusion, a simple yes or no would be suffice.
The expert what Kara?
Everyone, I am emailing with Mr. Kamenski right now. I have asked the Overseer for his help in case we need it. As you know, the Circle has many members, and financial resources are not an obstacle. I will keep you posted. DA
The reason we all seemed to be connected of course...
I assumed we were all aware of Project Showdown yes?
Well I can tell you that i am not the Followinghim In the circle. For now, thats all you need to know.
If it becomes necessary i'll tell more later.
MS
we are what do you have to do with project showdown
Kara ...
...did you write in a blank book?
Sounds good David. I'll wait to hear from you before or even if I message Mark again.
Karas..I mean Kara...did you ever have a skin disease?
thats what i was thinkning
I must confess, I did have a book at one time.
were you a part of project showdown
Yes, but did you write in it?
If you don't mind me asking...what's the "10.36" in your name?
You all are like my new friends, when I began this search I thought I would be alone.
Let's leave the past the past, if you don't mind.
At least for now.
oh...and this is still the same Ben, I've just edited my title until everyone gets who I am. ;)
good idea Ben ... right behind you
10.36 is a little secret of mine. What do you think it means?
yippee.... one day at school and i miss everything :)
maybe i should drop out :)
(im 100% kidding...)
Ah, sneaky! ;)
well, does it have to do with the countdown on http://booksofhistory.com/ ..?
Speaking of, do you know anything about the security camera feed on that site?
Your birthday and time is 3-6 at 10! Right?
DA, did anything come up from your last email with Mark?
i was thinking it was a scripture of some kind?
I assume you are a follower of the Way?
MS
No Mike, no dropping out of school. That would be bad. :)
Nope 10.36 isn't related to the countdown or the security feed. I've been wondering about that feed though... Does anyone know who those two men are?
i hope Mark can give us a lead on Frank....otherwise we're probably at a loss
besides, books like this would probably be very expensive...
i don't think ebay would sell them
Kara, isn't one of them abraham?
i doubt the other is black
How about the guy in the hood being Johnny Drake. Or thomas hunter?
MS
Who would he be after MS?
and i thought thomas was desceased, which tends to make it hard to swing a bat or drive a car, much less legal. are you implying that the tomes (black, Red, and white) in which Thomas is talked about were written before they happened? seeing as they are mentioned in showdown?
Thomas was Dead to this world, Not the Other one.
And the Books, the ones that orginally sent Thomas to the Black forrest, can certianly bring him back.
And Johnny Drake is meant to stop those who stood in the way of Truth. What if the man in the desk be someone like that?
Its all just theories really, i feel we will find out in due time. MS
This may be completely unrelated to what's going on and all ... but with a shady character like M. Black out ... do we know where Monique is, and can she help?
My dear friends I am going to call it a night. The tragedy of today’s events have drained me. I’m encouraged by the team working together. Talk to you soon.
Night Kara, sleep well...
hmm...
so this is post showdown which puts it in the 15 years drake was unaccounted for....
could the feed be of Drake going after Miller? or Mark?
Goodnight Kara. Rest well.
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I was thinking that too...maybe it's Mark or Miller....or perhaps someone else we are yet to find.
It looks like he has the book in the video right? So maybe he's the one we are looking for.
I'm guessing you haven't read Saint yet?
Johnny aint exactly Mr nice guy.
MS
Ps: To everyone who is still wondering, my username on Teddekker.com Is stof42.
Freefall, we should probably save this blog for discussing things with David, MS, and Kara. I think theories and indirect questions should be taken to the message boards on teddekker.com.
I'm currently working on enhancing the small words in the note... im pretty sure they are words... its just a process of making them clear enough to read! I'll keep ya'll posted.
ello i'm chavey and i'm here to help anything i could do?
Please read my blog:
http://alsolisteninginthedark.blogspot.com/
My blog is for a compilation of clues only and so don't chat on it!
I think someone already said " Leave no stone untearned" Have at it we need all help we can get.
MS
so has anyone found frank miller?
David -- when we are able to get in touch with a lead, such as Frank Miller, how should we have them contact you?
chavey: Not yet. Let's try to keep the chat as much as possible to teddekker.com. Less confusing that way. :)
Well... I cannot figure out what the small letters are... anyone have photoshop??? The programs I am using are freeware and junk... Im 99% sure they are words... but all I get is a blur... any good programs I could use?
Hey David and Kara. I've been following this from the beginning, I just haven't posted. :)
I'll be among those searching for Frank Miller. Would you guys happen to know his E-bay account name?
P.S. Guitarhero, people have already tried to zoom and clarify the "words" but it still seems too small to see. :(
David and Kara, im totally willing to help!
please let me know if theres anything i can do, ill be searching for frank miller! :)
i have photoshop 7. i was just about ready to see what i could do.
come to teddekker.com to see anything that might be a clue. i will not disclose anything here.
I looked Frank Miller up on Myspace and the first person it came up with was a man named Frank who's 32, lives in NY, NY, is married, and his last log in was on 4/29/04. I'll keep looking I just wanted to let you all know.
Ok, here's a tidbit. I've found out that there is no such thing as the "Lily of the Valley" funeral home in Dever, CO.
it only said that Frank Miller was in Denver. it never said that the bookstore was in Denver.
Good Morning Everybody
I'm willing to help. I don't know what exactly I can do. None of you know me, I don't have accounts to many of the social websites, I'm limited by my school.
But I do have one thing to offer David Abraham. Encouragement.
Always remember that we are in the middle of the story. We know the beginning, and the end will be that God gets what He's always been after. And God is the only one who knows the middle.
Do ya'll think I should join the Circle?
Yes, :) it helps us all keep the clues together...
Plus it's also a fun community to share insight on many topics.
welcome, Banana! Yeah, I'd head to teddekker.com/site.php and get started! Lots of message threads to read about :)
banana... welcome... yes join the circle!!! Also, any chance you attend school with David's son Samuel? :)
good morning banana! welcome.
Let's keep this blog to talking to David or Kara please...any chatting can move to teddekker.com
Thanks
Let's keep this blog to talking to David or Kara please...any chatting can move to teddekker.com
Thanks
I've been following along for a while. I don't know exactly how i can help however. So I will ask you. How can be of service to finding the books?
Curiosity demands that I ask... Has anyone tried to contact Frank through the bookworm website?
The contact info is there...
theworm@bookyworm.com
Curiosity demands that I ask... Has anyone tried to contact Frank through the bookworm website?
The contact info is there...
theworm@bookyworm.com
Let me enlighted you all. Billos is the one in the securuity camera feed, and he is the one working with Marsuvees Black. Thomas Hunter is not yet dead, because this story takes place in the fifteen year gap. Kara is not the Kara that is Thomas' sister, she is the Kara that Johnis saved from the desert.
ah, if it is in the 15 year gap, should we all be trying to get blood to save ourselves from the Raison strain that hasn't been cured yet?!
Plus, showdown wouldn't have happened yet, which DA talks about in his early post.
I am confused on the timeline now!
hey can somone bring me up to speed on the search?
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